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A:TLA CHALLENGE DAY 19:
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↪ Aang and KataraBaby, you’re my forever girl.
I just wanted to clear up this rumor, since friends and colleagues keep asking us if it is true. The origin was an article in Variety where the journalist speculated about “possible Nickelodeon products that could be turned into films” including our show, and a lot of other online news outlets ran with it thinking it was a scoop.
Mike and I do have a good relationship with the execs at Paramount, and we would love to write/direct an animated Korra feature film sometime, but let me just repeat that there is nothing in development on that, with or without us, at this time. Even if there were, I don’t know when or how we’d do it! There’s still the business of these remaining 40 episodes of the TV show we are making. But hopefully one day, not too far in the future, Mike and I will be able to announce otherwise.
In the meantime, someone get crackin’ on some fan animation of Mako doing a couple of these moves. K, thanks.
“I will make no such promises”
color meme: Jinora in orange
Brothers at heart.
Erm, I’m sorry but no. Legend of Korra only having 12 episodes and originally being a mini series does not mean that it is acceptable to have badly paced and inconsistent romances as well as incredibly quick resolutions. That justification makes absolutely no sense. If you know you have 12 episodes to work with, you work with 12 episodes.
The idea you need 20 episodes or something to write a compelling and well developed storylines is ridiculous. Some of the best TV shows in the world are the incredibly short mini series and they manage to weave intricate and beautifully written plots that pay off in such a short time. Seriously, anyone that is a fan of British television will be able to list off shows that are only 4-6 episodes long and yet are able to craft some of the best stories ever. Hell, you can just think of some movies that manage to create some of the most time endearing romances, those are only 2 hours long!
Legend of Korra only being 12 episodes is not an excuse for choppy pacing and underdeveloped characters. Originally only being 1 season is not an excuse either, they would have known their limits and exactly what they wanted to cover. Instead we have the almost universally accepted criticism that characters were left hanging in the development department and that certain romances were paper thin. This is not the fault of the timing, it’s a fault of the writing. I’m sure it will get better next season because they have more writers on board and the show has a solid framework. But the notion that we should excuse shoddy development because there wasn’t enough time is ludicrous.
Right, this is the last negative post before I go pack up my room and wait for a 720p download link.
Fire Nation: We, the Fire Nation, would like to apologize to the Air Nomads for the regrettable actions done by our fore fathers.
Fire Nation: We realize that mass genocide is wrong, and ask that the Air Nomads forgive us for wiping them out.
Aang: ….
Aang: ……..
Aang: Um… we…. /I/ forgive you?I’m going to reblog this just because I feel like the genocide of an entire group of people isn’t really something that we should be joking about.
I really only reblogged it because it points out that the Fire Nation will never be able to make up for what they did to the Air Nomads. They can’t apologize to the race — they can only apologize to Aang, because they murdered the rest of his people. When I reblogged it I didn’t see it as joking about genocide, I saw it as pointing out how utterly stupid and futile any ‘apology’ the Fire Nation made would be.
I wasn’t necessarily calling you out for it - and while this is true, it still seems to be joking about it?
I think it’s quite clever. It’s done in the medium of a joke, but not in a way that trivializes the matter. As somebody has already pointed out, it highlights the fact the Fire Nation can never truly apologize for what they’ve done, because there’s only one person they can talk to. I think it’s clever, not dismissive.
Posted this in another speculation post, but I wanted the focus to be on the wire for this one. It could purely be coincidence,but it’s just fun to theorize and debate.
far fetch maybe?
How…how do you even notice this?
1) Mad props for noticing this. That is ridiculous attention to detail.
2) Very interesting, and if Future Industries does turn out to be involved that’s a really nice touch they’ve added there,
3) BUT, keep in mind it’s a wire. All buildings have them, maybe electricity is carried in red wires in Republic City and that’s why they are so prevalent.
This was the Red Wire Theory. Turns out it was only sort of half correct as the base was no where near Future Industries factories. But it still got at the fact Hiroshi was involved.
In other news, my prediction about their being mechs in Avatar was correct! Not sure how much I like the idea, but I do enjoy being right!
can we see this outfit
on him
or just shirtless.
please & thank you.
sincerely,
everyone.
co-signed.
Everyone at that party was dapper as fuck. But Tenzin took the prize for me…
Now if only someone was to draw Aang in those clothes I would be eternally grateful.
See, Aang, that’s just not true.
This post is going to ruffle some feathers, but honestly I don’t care. It needs to be said, and I especially want to hear from people who continue to support Aang’s reasoning after reading The Promise.
This panel actually completely sums up my entire problem with the ideology of “The Promise: Part 1”. Zuko gets cast as the antagonist because he’s being a political realist, and Aang gets to take the moral high-ground by being a total moral absolutist, while acting like someone who’s never actually lived in the real world for much more than a year?
Wait, what?
The problem here is that Aang doesn’t seem to understand that peaceful coexistence is possible, because all he’s known of the Fire Nation political hierarchy has been Sozin and Ozai. He obstinately and childishly persists in his belief that everyone has to stay in their own little corners for their to be peace in the Four Nations, which is a thoroughly flawed stance to take.
Zuko realizes that it’s possible for Earth Kingdom and Fire Nation citizens to live together in harmony (OH THE IRONY) without having to uproot an entire city’s population and turn them, essentially, into refugees. Aang’s viewpoint strikes me as that of someone who’s never actually lived out in the real world before, and truly believes that cultural and ethnic divisions are black-and-white issues. Just because Zuko is being a good leader and putting the issues of his people first, that doesn’t mean he’s going to “start another war.”
In fact, causing that much civil unrest that quickly by executing massive forced relocations would actually be a lot more likely to spark off a small-scale (civil) war within the Fire Nation. Zuko looking out for his people first doesn’t make him automatically bellicose, and allowing Yu Dao to stay established won’t throw the world into chaos again.
What Aang is saying here is that segregation is the only method of obtaining and maintaining peace. Complete segregation, where everyone from the Fire Nation lives there (regardless of the fact that the Fire Nation is way too small to support all of those new arrivals), and so on. Really, it flies in the face of what Zuko’s coronation speech was all about. He called for unity, and forging a new path forward together. That’s what Yu Dao symbolizes. Aang is speaking directly counter to Zuko’s collaborationist sentiments, while outwardly claiming that his view will lead to ‘harmony and restoration’.
No. No, it will not. The only way the wounds of the War will heal is if cities like Yu Dao become the rule, and not the exception. Aang is wrong here, and Zuko is in the right.
Now it’s time for me to alienate the rest of the people reading this who might still be agreeing with me by giving Ozai the MVP Award.
Yes, you read that right.
Seriously, the man is absolutely, utterly brilliant here. He plants a seed of doubt in Zuko’s mind, and then waits an entire year to reap the benefits of it. He understands the crisis that Zuko is facing, and he understands exactly how to exploit Zuko’s lack of self-assurance. Ozai promises the kind of advice that will allow his son to reach an immediate, stabilizing solution. Iroh’s advice would be conciliatory, and Zuko is caught in a bind trying to negotiate with people who can’t see the value of thinking in conciliatory terms.
Say what you will about the way Ozai treated his family, but he was a warrior born into an age and an environment where warlords reigned supreme. Civil unrest is a climate where powerful, charismatic individuals can rise to the top of a government with astonishing speed, and Ozai understands that. He knows how to play this kind of political game a lot better than Zuko… but this next bit is the most important thing.
He’s convinced Zuko that this is the only possible course of action. That’s the true brilliance of Ozai here. He suggested the necessity of his philosophy, only to have it reinforced independently by a bunch of people in Yu Dao. I’m not saying that Ozai is a good person; he’s a horrible human being. But he at least understands the necessity of making hard choices as the leader of a nation, and he was fiercely protective of the Fire Nation as its ruler.
Zuko’s challenge now is to find a way to stick up for the Fire Nation without sliding into Ozai’s aggressive expansionism, which is going to be Zuko’s true test as a leader. Aang is not helping him one bit here, which is what friends should actually do for each other. Aang should be understanding, and he’s being obstinate. Absolutist, where a more nuanced approach is called for.
But what I really want to know, as I said at the beginning of this post, is why people who are still sticking by Aang now are doing it. His world-view is tunneled and telescoped beyond all reason, and his approach to complex political and social issues is to treat them like the blank spaces in a coloring book. His ideology is fundamentally immature, and unacceptable in someone who’s supposed to be the arbiter of balance in the Four Nations.
So why should he get a pass? The time for his ‘light-hearted and fun’ attitude is over. It’s no longer acceptable for him to ‘just be a kid’. If he’s going to truly take on the mantle of the Avatar, he needs to totally own it. Responding to someone’s legitimate concern about uprooting her from her life by doing a funny dance is not the way an Avatar should act.
I’ve said my piece, take it or leave it. I’m actually very surprised how subversive The Promise wound up being, in all honesty. If the next two are this deceptively complex as well, I’ll be more than happy to read them.
Pragmatism? Seriously? Anyone with a basic grasp on colonialism can understand where Aang is coming from. The key part of his sentence is “you can’t have balance if one nation occupies another.”
As much as you ignore it in your post, the Fire Nation invaded this place, took over the social and economic structures and has dominated them ever since. Zuko was all for dismantaling the colonies into he let his daddy issues get the better of him, he’s not being a political realist, he’s succumbing to the psychological tricks his father played on his pride.
“His ideology is fundamentally immature”
Wow. Just wow. Aang is attacking colonialism and that’s immature. The guy recognises that balance can’t be achieved when you nation that is feared and hated by the rest of world is continuing to occupy a piece of land that the majority of people want them out of. How you can defend colonialism and Zuko’s actions is beyond me. Logistical reasons are not a good defence at all. Pragmatic concerns are true of ALL colonial situations, just because the invaders quite like living there is not a good reason for them being able to stay!
Furthermore you call him obstinate, and yet Aang’s the one who wanted to open up a dialogue. Zuko shuts himself off from the rest of the world and attacks both Aang and Katara when they try to negotiate with him.
There’s a reason Zuko is portrayed as the douche in this, and it’s because he is. He was all for removing his citizens until the mayor guilt tripped him into changing his mind. Zuko still has the same character flaws as he did in the series, and they are being exhibited here again. He’s not a political realist otherwise he would accept that there are moral and legal claims to his country being booted out. There is no limit on a nation’s sovereignty — logistical obstacles does not mean the Fire Nation suddenly gets to keep that piece of land.
Aang is doing his duty as the Avatar, he’s standing up to the Fire Lord who’s been manipulated into forgoing on his promises. If anyone is being immature, it’s Zuko for falling for the same tricks over and over again.
sdkajsd OH MY
casually gets some popcorn and keeps an eye on the notes
I do like these Korra troll secrets. Unfortunately people actually think this. Not exaggerating in the slightest.
